Weiand's 177 Pro Street supercharger kits are engineered to give you a 25-40 percent gain in power - while maintaining outstanding streetability. Timing is way off as well. Lots of horsepower for little money can make you happy, but it's not always easy to find. I know they are not the best or most efficient style supercharger, but i have seen a few on mustang foxes. Using the supplied 3-inch blower pulley and 6-inch crank pulley, the Weiand 177 supercharger produced a peak of 6.3 psi and increased the power output of the 350 to 405 hp and 446 lb-ft of torque. I ran a 144 blower for a while. http://s583.photobucket.com/albums/ss278/01ws6bird/, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. 7TH SERIES OF DYNO TESTS ... the engine made in its blower-prepped configuration. The disappointing part is the numbers the motor turned out. If that is the questions. Re: weiand 174 on a 302 « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2011, 09:12:57 am » ics titan copper head gasket that does not need o ring heads or block and come with 40, 50 ,60 ,70 ,80,thou thick head gaskets and you can use them and the msd boost timing master and i use a snow performance water/methonal injection just to be safe than sorry For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. That work continues today through Holley’s market-leading EFI products as well as through Holley’s family of best-in-industry brands. For starters, I have a fresh built 383 sbc, 4bolt main, forged rods and Pistons. Cam selection for that blower has to be dead on as well. Today, Weiand produces unmistakable power-building components. 65 Chevelle, ZZ502 with 11,2:1cr and 242/252 110 cam. Tom Terrific or Terrible Tom, depending on the phase of the moon, passing cosmic rays or other factors not fully understood except by my wife. The air file mixer is almost perfect through the whole power curve. I do want to make sure I am maximizing the motors capabilities. This is my first stoker motor. The 177 should fit under your Montes hood. and is degreed in ? Use a nitrous/blower grind type cam in the 236 degree@.050 range. Did you try more timing? Any HELPFUL input or insite would be great. Weiand's 177 Pro Street supercharger kits are engineered to give you a 25-40 percent gain in power - while maintaining outstanding streetability. It has a static compression of 10:1. Timing is 12deg with a total of 18*. About Us. The 177 on a 350 will make good power. I'm not sure. Anyone have any real numbers with simalur set up? I don't want to push the motor to the max every time I drive. Meant only for a BBC and is capable of 600HP plus depending on the pulley set up. Weiand’s complete line of cutting edge intake manifolds, superchargers and accessories, and high-flow water pumps are designed and tested to deliver maximum performance on street and race applications. It's putting 390HP to the rear wheels through a TH-350 automatic, so that's about 470-480HP at the flywheel, depending on whose conversion factor you beleive. I took my car and had it tuned on the dyno and like most guys, I was a little disappointed in the numbers. Run a tight quench area to stop detonation and it will be one tuff combo. JavaScript is disabled. 4” Snout Pulley. seems like that motor without the blower should make that same power (around 485 at the crank) with proper timing. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You can run single carb with a 250 but might not reach a high HP number with a single carb. It's bolted up to a turbo 350, transco shift kit, 3:55 gears (eaton limited slip). See our additional drive ratio charts at the end of this section. I've never had a car with a blower before this one. Those numbers are from the tires. I've never had a car with a blower before this one. 17/18 Taking my 144 Weiand-blown 350 Chevy motor for its first engine dyno run. That blower is a little small. It was a chassis dyno. Currently running 5lbs of boost. As far as brand? About 6 months ago I picked up a weiand 142 blower, bolted that little guy up to my motor. Weiand 177 Mini Blower Would you pay $1,660 for an extra 112 hp and 101 lb-ft? Did you read plugs to see what "timing mark" on plugs looked like? I'm guessing you mean engine or chassis? How much converter? We left the timing were it was. My suggestion is to find a reverse dome/D-shaped dome piston in the 8.5-9.0 CR range. Dyno testing just done on the 8125 shows about 6-8 peak HP and 5-7 ft/lbs peak torque gain over a 2101 intake on a 290 HP crate 350 with Q-jet, AFB, and Holley spreadbore carbs. I will double check That and maybe play around with it a bit. As far as how the car runs, it runs great, no issues. Plus it still pulled hard to 6,200rpm where it peaked with 628hp on just 7.6-psi boost. multiply your numbers by 1.2, be a little closer. Weiand Pro Street; Supercharger Kit 6502 1. WEIAND SUPERCHARGER INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS PART A This set of instruction sheets applies to all WEIAND small block and big block Chevrolet supercharger installations. Dyno is your typical Dyno-Jet spin-the-big-roller deal. I looked for some info on the weiand site and it does mention that on the 177 your suppose to check the oil in the front portion of the blower but the back is a sealed unit. 256ci Weiand Blower. I think those numbers are respectable for rear wheel HP readings. JavaScript is disabled. Timing is 12deg with a total of 18*. Use some good aluminum 64cc chamber heads with 180-200cc runners. I've had my car for almost a year and got to thinking about blower maintance today. Faster you spin that blower the more hot air will be forced into the motor. This is a 256ci displacement blower. The 177 supercharger is designed for engines that are modified and can take advantage of the extra flow capacity. Seems like that motor WITHOUT the blower should make that same power (around 485 at the crank) with proper timing. I see BB 177 set ups on that auction site for as low as a grand, but $1500 is more the norm, and a new one can be had for under $2500. We did pull the plugs and they were looking nice and clean. What we needed was more blower speed to step the boost pressure up. Awendal's blower looks like the Weiand version of the 6-71 to me. For sale is very low use and looks the part Weiand 256 Blower / Supercharger. As others have stated, torque convertor selection and further engine tuning can make a difference. But if you want to maximize your power then call Chris about your cam. But I was under the impression I would be closer to the 600hp range. We built up a Dart 454 big-block, grabbed a couple of Weiand blowers, and headed over to Westech Performance in Mira Loma, California, for some dyno time on their Superflow 902. My original 383 did 482 RWHP @ 10 lbs boost. These sections will be clearly marked. It's in my 78 Malibu (my Grandmother's old car with 35K original miles!) All that said and done I took it to the shop to make sure it was dialed in. http://s318.photobucket.com/albums/mm436/540Hotrod/?action=view¤t=Jim3.mp4, http://hinksonautomotive-cncblocks.com/shop-tour/, http://hinksonautomotive-cncblocks.com/specials/, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD3tlarmKEQ, http://www.chevelles.com/forums/showthread.php?t=230714, http://documents.holley.com/techlibrary_supercharger_tech_info.pdf, VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. The 177 should have no problem pushing you over 500HP on the 383. What brand of dyno? Methinks you have good numbers @5lbs boost. Stepping up to a 7.0-inch crank pulley resulted in a jump to 452 hp and 492 lb-ft of torque. Really is to small for a 383. In the case of our ever dependable Scoggin-Dickey supplied Goodwrench Quest 350, we had come upon an impasse. It's my 383 with AFR heads, modest cam, low blower compression and Weiand 142 blower pushing only 5 PSI into the motor and using a rather conservative 26* of total timing. Best pull was 389HP and 394 torque. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! The Weiand roots type blowers have been around for decades and are proven technology. Weiand 8004 Aluminum Intake Manifold 327 350 Chevy. The engine was not dyno’d afterwards, and the oil pump went out about a month later, requiring a crate motor swap. A forum community dedicated to Chevrolet Chevelle owners and enthusiasts. Comp cam "custom" grind cam (I can't tell you specs because I can't find the card). I've had my car for almost a year and got to thinking about blower maintance today. Come join the discussion about restorations, builds, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! Thanks in advanced... How much boost was it making? Love that sound! I guess I can reply to my own question :yes: I just went out and unscrewed what I thought was the filler plug and it has a dip stick. Weiand 177 Pro Street Superchargers. Daily driver motor for my 1968 Camaro coupe. And test 20 shows the power we made at maximum boost with the Weiand 177-cid blower installed. What I gathered from most responses is my timing is to low. If you are spinning that blower to fast to make boost the heat will kill the power. The mechanic said with as much compression as I am running we didn't want to get to much timing in it. Intake manifold gasket set (7620/7621 – Mr. Gasket P/N 5827 or 7622/7623 – Mr. Gasket P/N 5817) is recommended Valve cover gasket set (Mr. Gasket P/N 177 or 182) Thermostat housing gasket (Mr. Gasket P/N 740C,738G) For over a century Holley has driven the cutting edge of fuel-system design. Just wondering what kind of issues you have had with them. In addition, low-profile designs are also available to provide added hood clearance in tight engine compartments. 5 comp all forged bottom end, Edelbrock RPM heads NX262H cam 177 weiand with a 750 holley vac secoundry boost referenced with 80 jets in the primary for. When I built the motor I had no intentions of adding a blower. I'm running the smaller Weiand 142 on a mild 383 with AFR heads right now. Thanks to everyone for all the input. For starters, I have a fresh built 383 sbc, 4bolt main, forged rods and Pistons. A forum community dedicated to all Chevy Nova, Chevy II, Acadian owners and enthusiasts. I looked for some info on the weiand site and it does mention that on the 177 your suppose to check the oil in the front portion of the blower but the back is a … A 177 isn't a bad thing for a big block but a 250 sized blower by weiand would be better and could fit under a 4" cowl hood with a air system sealed to the hood. Is the cam for a forced induction build !! I changed the carb out for a correct boost reference 700cfm Holley and added a boost retard. Currently running 5lbs of boost. I had just changed them and the oil prior to going to the dyno. The wagon was an absolute tire-roaster afterwards though. Dart pro 1 aluminum heads, full Rollers, 1.6 rockers. If your engine is … Adding the Weiand 177 supercharger to the 383 stroker increased the power output to 594 hp and 521 lb-ft at just 2.8 psi. I took my car and had it tuned on the dyno and like most guys, I was a little disappointed in the numbers. Not much room but much more power avalible with a 250 v.s. Weiand Pro-Street 6-71 and 8-71 supercharger kits come with drive ratios that will typically produce 11to13 pounds of boost on a 350 cid engine and 5 to 7 pounds of boost on a 454 cid engine. We Bolt on a Weiand 142 Blower and Make 470 hp. Big Block Chevy Supercharger (B&M/Weiand 174) Weiand 177 PRO Supercharger. Note that throughout these instructions, there may be sections that only apply to certain supercharger models or certain engines. '67 Vette-555"/Gforce 5 Spd/Dana 60 IRS-3.07's. In addition, low-profile designs are also available to provide added hood clearance in tight engine compartments. kinda of been thinking of trying one out. This is a complete kit for a BBC and or Mercruiser. Dart pro 1 aluminum heads, full Rollers, 1.6 rockers. Boost is good. I can tell you the 142 blower is made for a stock 350. 12 And here's the 8-inch pulley pull compared to the best naturally aspirated dyno pull. Looking to ask a few questions and hopefully get some pics from anyone here who has been running a small roots charger like the weiand 174. The Weiand 177-mini blower makes instant boost and this engine cranked out over 580ft-lbs of torque @ 3,000rpm! Check out how and why you would want to swap your manifold for a Roots Blower, in which it the Roots-style blower ensures you to get maximum cfm as early as possible, in Car Craft Magazine. The kind that seem to be everywhere these days. 177. All I ever heard about was these motor turn out 500+ HP. "For those that will fight for it...FREEDOM ...has a flavor the protected shall never know.". What pulleys are you running? Weiand also makes a 250 blower that is quite a bit lower than the 6-71 style. Hp from tires are about 80% from engine, I've been told. Performance between the Weiand 177 vs 144 … 03. 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